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Rex's Speed Shop DT400 igntion review-So Far

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Replied by automan on topic Rex's Speed Shop DT400 igntion review-So Far

No timing adjust on the RSS?

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30 May 2023 10:42 #41

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Nope. It uses your OG yamaha flywheel keyed. In my case FOTO2173 flywheel. The stator plate is fixed with three countersunk screws. No need to have a slotted adjustment if it's dead on to yamaha spec.
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30 May 2023 11:33 #42

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Ok, sounds good. So at 2.9 it will kick back as that's its running btdc setting.
So if its not designed to retard for kicking then 'so be it'--just kick it hard right from the top of the kick stroke & use the decomp.
 In saying that--the de-compressor is kick operated--if its actually working & letting off a bit of comp.
Look forward to hearing it runs, & how it runs.
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30 May 2023 16:22 #43

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Just to add--the original system retarded for kicking with that troublesome two stage pulser green/red & white/red.
Worked good too--till it didn't!!.
I know you had no stator with the bike--just saying.
30 May 2023 16:28 #44

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The decomp does work. Would be nice if this ignition would have the retard built in. I'll have to get some bigger boots!

I was going to look for a Yamaha stator because everything else was there. I just went aftermarket bc I read on here that the CDI was problematic.

I'll get running, even if I have to tow it.

I wish this had electric start like my AT1.
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Last edit: 30 May 2023 18:01 by Clegg.
30 May 2023 17:56 #45

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Fit a chainsaw decompressor into the head.
30 May 2023 23:32 #46

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Replied by automan on topic Rex's Speed Shop DT400 igntion review-So Far

CDI do have a "retard"
They need approx. 1.3v from the trigger coil(pulser). The slower the RPM the longer it takes to build up to 1.3 volts(thus retard)

After 2-3KPM or so the delay is so little, one cannot measure.



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31 May 2023 02:28 #47

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I thought the RSS ignition triggers from the source coil? I cant see a trigger coil shown on the pics? Does the retard at high RPM feature also involve the trigger coil?
31 May 2023 03:04 #48

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In my experience, a 360 or 400 that kicks back regularly has timing too far advanced. Period.  End of story. 

Modern fuels are different and I find the 400 runs perfect with timing slightly retarded from stock and will never kick back.  At stock setting, sometimes you'll get a kick back but usually only if someone is wildly kicking away and hasn't brought the engine to TDC and given it a nice solid follow through. 

 
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Getting interesting now even if i don't understand it well. & going by what AUTOMAN says--if you spun it slowly with drill on real slow it should show the retard as still needs to be fast enough to spark but maybe a lot slower than CLEGG was spinning it [my fault for saying 'spin it' maybe].
Could get someone to turn it over by hand on the kickstart with plug out [but earthed] & should still flash the strobe & show it if happening nearer tdc than your 2.9 mark.
Doesn't really matter but could be interesting that's all.
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