facebook1 youtube1 twitter1 instagram linkedin1 pinterest1

NOTICE:  If you are not a free registered member of the site, you will not see the photos in the forum, and you won't be able to access our premium member content. Please consider joining our community! REGISTER AND MAKE THIS BOX DISAPPEAR!

×

Pictures Posting Not Working (12 Jun 2023)

Picture uploads is again unavailable. We are working on the problem. Thanks for your patience.

Makotosun

Air and idle 73 dt3

  • Posts: 779
  • Likes received: 860

Replied by apex on topic Air and idle 73 dt3

It's not "kettling" as I would expect a reed valve engine would. It sounds flat and unstable at idle, and to me that points to an air leak. Also looks like the idle speed screw is turned way in, which would also be something you'd do to compensate for a non-carburetor related problem. Turning the air screw in will richen it up, and should allow it to start "kettling" but if you turn that screw all the way in with little effect I'm thinking air leak. Need to read over the leak check threads scattered throughout the forum, there are many detailed methods and setups used by forum members. It's not hard to do, just need to collect the required pieces & be diligent sealing off the exhaust/intake, and limit your pressure to 6-7 PSI max.

Could also be retarded timing as well, but, I'm betting on an air leak. 

 
Allrighty Then
The following user(s) Liked this Post: MarkT, principal282
06 Sep 2021 11:18 #21

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • principal282
  • principal282's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Elite Member
  • Elite Member
  • Posts: 238
  • Likes received: 71

Replied by principal282 on topic Air and idle 73 dt3

I think you are on to something. 
I'll dig in. 
 
06 Sep 2021 12:54 #22

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • principal282
  • principal282's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Elite Member
  • Elite Member
  • Posts: 238
  • Likes received: 71

Replied by principal282 on topic Air and idle 73 dt3

I see leak down test kits from 100 on down.
I'm kind of a miser. Would this one work okay?
www.harborfreight.com/cylinder-leak-down-tester-62595.html
06 Sep 2021 13:11 #23

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Posts: 779
  • Likes received: 860

Replied by apex on topic Air and idle 73 dt3

Harbor Freight wants you to start from scratch when you visit their website...searching I see the Maddox or Pittsburgh ones. Probably either will work and you'll need a couple of expandable freeze plugs for the intake/exhaust. Then some soapy water in a spray nozzle of windex and then when at PSI spray away. 
Allrighty Then
The following user(s) Liked this Post: principal282
06 Sep 2021 13:20 #24

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Posts: 9669
  • Likes received: 3935

Replied by RT325 on topic Air and idle 73 dt3

 Going back to the baffle pic. I said it looks like it must originally have been welded to the tail piece you show there. BUT that wouldn't work a there no way for the gas to get out down the tail pipe. So maybe the spot welds that held it deep down in the end 'did' let go or someone knocked it free then dropped it back in loosely. I dunno--parts shows it as one piece. Ok just looking again at Partzilla i see that bit is shaped so gas can get past & out the back, but didn't think yours looked like 'that' & just a round pipe so no way to pass gas out the back if welded on.
Last edit: 06 Sep 2021 14:42 by RT325.
06 Sep 2021 14:39 #25

This message has an attachment image.
Please log in or register to see it.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Posts: 9669
  • Likes received: 3935

Replied by RT325 on topic Air and idle 73 dt3

 
06 Sep 2021 14:49 #26

This message has an attachment image.
Please log in or register to see it.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • principal282
  • principal282's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Elite Member
  • Elite Member
  • Posts: 238
  • Likes received: 71

Replied by principal282 on topic Air and idle 73 dt3

Yeah it's weird that's how it came out. The little piece was laying loose.

it doesn't make a difference in how it runs though. On or off, it idles (rough) and hesitates when getting gas.. lots of sputter and no power... 
06 Sep 2021 17:09 #27

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Posts: 1119
  • Likes received: 695

Replied by Swoop56 on topic Air and idle 73 dt3

The 71 DT1 E baffle had the spark arrestor as an integral part , as per RT's parts diagram .
The DT2 and 3 had the spark arrester welded into an internal baffle in the pipe .
Yours has obviously come adrift , and getting it back in place might be tricky without some pipe surgery .
 
The following user(s) Liked this Post: principal282
Last edit: 06 Sep 2021 17:36 by Swoop56.
06 Sep 2021 17:36 #28

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • principal282
  • principal282's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • Elite Member
  • Elite Member
  • Posts: 238
  • Likes received: 71

Replied by principal282 on topic Air and idle 73 dt3

It was just kinda laying in there sideways. A secondary problem for the moment I suppose
06 Sep 2021 18:38 #29

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Posts: 9669
  • Likes received: 3935

Replied by RT325 on topic Air and idle 73 dt3

Yeah Swoop, that pic was from the "73 DT3 parts pic on Partzilla but i thought they were integral so i dunno haha. I think its come adrift on this one. I've knocked a few out going back years, knock them off the welds then shake them back out on blocked exhausts, then think hell its loud.
The following user(s) Liked this Post: Swoop56
06 Sep 2021 19:38 #30

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Moderators: yamadminMakotosunDEETVinnieJames Hart