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Is this DT2 repair quote fair?

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Replied by MarkT on topic Is this DT2 repair quote fair?

At $35/hr, I agree, while hours might seem "excessive" the total cost doesn't.
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Replied by RT360Fan on topic Is this DT2 repair quote fair?

Heck, I've spent a good part of an hour struggling with a countershaft sprocket nut.

Also, I don't even want to add up the hours I've spent doing parts research, tracking down something NLA.
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Replied by BubbaSendsIt on topic Is this DT2 repair quote fair?


Thanks! Like what? I only wanted to do only the bare minimum to get me trail worthy.
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22 Nov 2020 05:38 #13

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I am getting some mixed messages. This is why I withheld the shop rate in the original post. I wanted to focus on the 14 hour claim. I am breaking into this hobby and I have very limited mechanical experience. It is super valuable for me to know if this stuff really takes this long. In part to know if my mechanic is honest. But also it is super helpful to know what I am up against. If it really took him 14 hours with an organized custom shop and invaluable years of experience, it is safe to say it would have taken me 3x longer at least. That is a crazy amount of time that I don't have now unfortunately.

I also have a legacy restoration project in the garage that are complete overhauls. 2 1965 Ducati Monza's my dad left me. I was hoping if things went smooth on the Yamaha restore I would put him on the Ducati's next. That is why I feel it is important to get to the bottom of the hour situation. Is it unusual for a customer to expect an accurate hour count? I am sensing people think I should ignore the inflated hours because the rate is good. But I am worried if someone is dishonest about one thing they will be hard to trust on a big project like my Ducatis. The Ducatis, unlike the Yamaha, have considerable sentimental value to me. I can't bring them to anyone I don't fully trust.
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22 Nov 2020 05:48 #14

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Replied by RT360Fan on topic Is this DT2 repair quote fair?


Looking at the list of the work performed, I don't see anything out of the ordinary or 'extra'. Matter of fact I'd have added checking and replacing the front brake shoes as well as the 50 y.o. fish fork oil. Hard to believe that the original fork seals at that age and mileage wouldn't need be replaced. Possibly the front wheel bearings. No mention of the trans oil on the list either. Nothing listed regarding pulling the flywheel/inspection of the points/ignition system. Inspection of the spokes? Pretty basic stuff to do/inspect before sending it out to ride, IMO. My thought is, maybe he did more inspections that added hours but didn't list them?
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Thanks for mentioning the front brake shoes and fork oil. We had a misunderstanding about the front brake shoes. I gave him two OEM sets to do front and back. But on pickup one set was still unopened in my return parts crate. He said we never discussed the front wheel. Adding that if it did fail I would still have rear brakes so I shouldn't consider that a priority on my remaining to-do list. We never talked about fork oil so I will look into that. The front wheel bearing wasn't listed on the diagnostic and unlike the rear before replacement it has almost no give or wobble.

I did the transmission oil replacement myself before I started it for the first time. I was happy to see drain out pure and clean. I then filled it with the good stuff. I was glad you said everything seemed necessary, I thought so too. You are right that the quote includes diagnostic time. The carb was not inspected however.
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22 Nov 2020 07:46 #16

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Replied by RT360Fan on topic Is this DT2 repair quote fair?


Front brake shoe failure is potentially very dangerous. Rear brake shoe failure is bad, front brake shoe failure can be worse. Old brake shoes can and do (many posts about it on this forum) delaminate from their backing plates. This can lock the front wheel with possibly bad results for the rider. If it were me, I'd be replacing those front shoes ASAP.
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Replied by asco on topic Is this DT2 repair quote fair?


Every mechanic has to analyze priorities of what needs to be done. Unfortunately, with your limited knowledge you were not able to do so. Without getting into specifics because it's too time-consuming you're either happy with the job or you're not. The hours are irrelevant. The dollar amount for a running bike is Paramont. Trail worthy is an ambiguous statement.
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1971 CT1-C (BRANDY)
1970 DT1-C (MONICA)
1972 AT2M (ZIFFLE)
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Replied by Eazy-X on topic Is this DT2 repair quote fair?

Here in the UK a "proper" mechanic (i.e. has a factory unit, tools, lifts, etc.) will cost you north of $60 per hour edging toward $80 so it sounds like your man is doing half price from home. The hours though sound like how long I would take :)

However, I mentioned my DT175 to the local wrenchers whilst getting an MoT (engineering check) on another bike and, as professionals, they wouldn't touch it with a barge pole! They know full well that vintage stuff is a time sink and they just CBA to get into arguments about hours worked. They'd do something specific, for example I got them to fit the tyres after my own cack-handed efforts punctured the inner, but not "restore this pls" so count yourself lucky you got someone to even consider the work.
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Replied by asco on topic Is this DT2 repair quote fair?


You have already had several feedback from the elders on the site.
I have a problem with the statement that you "specifically withheld information about the shop rate as to everybody concentrating on the hours instead."

There are no pictures of the motorcycle. More withheld information. ?????

With that being said; crank seals, pressure test, carburetor overhaul, decarbonizing the head, checking for blow by on the piston, scored cylinder walls, a previous lean condition, fork oil change, remove the stater cover, inspecting for old moisture. Miscellaneous frozen nuts and bolts. Removing the baffle cleaning, checking the exhaust for oil dripping from the gravity feed oil injection system into the pipe. I didn't see the sprockets so I don't know what condition they were in? You made no mention of that. This is just a small compile of things that would need to be done to make a bike "trail worthy" in addition to new tires tubes and rims straps.
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1971 CT1-C (BRANDY)
1970 DT1-C (MONICA)
1972 AT2M (ZIFFLE)
1970 CT1-B (HULK)
1971 DT1E (GINA)
1970 CT1-B (CLIDE)
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