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  • jez
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07 May 2023 10:23 - 07 May 2023 10:38
Replied by jez on topic 1974 DT 175 clutch .
i tried a 4 mm ball and it is too much. should the mushroom rod be flush in the shaft or stick out a bit ? mine is flush when i start to turn the actuator arm the mushroom starts to move imeidiatly just dont feel resistance .should there be a spacer on the cable before it goes into the cable guide on the crank case ? is there an easy way to remove the rod to measure it etc ?
  • jez
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07 May 2023 01:19 - 07 May 2023 01:22
Replied by jez on topic 1974 DT 175 clutch .
    does this cable and actuator position look right ?i can move the actuator arm about 15mm anti clockwise before i feel it start to move the push rod ??
  • jez
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06 May 2023 04:28
1974 DT 175 clutch . was created by jez
Hi Fellas, i have a DT 175 model A 1974 that i am trying to restore . i have put a replacement clutch cable on today but it appears to be to long as it just takes up the slack in the actuator arm not actually moving the plates .am i missing something obvious or have i been sent the wrong cable ?
  • shyted
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04 May 2023 15:11
Replied by shyted on topic OEM style cable supplier
Dave also sells the clutch actuator worm drive . I have just bought one from him as mine is split on the DT1.
Handy to know.
  • MarkT
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30 Apr 2023 14:53 - 30 Apr 2023 14:56
Replied by MarkT on topic DT125 clutch rod too short?
Welcome!

Couple of things...  you've picked the right diagram so you may already know...  Most parts lists are for US models...  You have what looks like a 74-on DT125 without electric start.  Might be called a DT125F?  Not to be confused with the US 1979 DT125F that was a monoshock (aka "MX" many places outside the USA) model.  Your bike will be closer to a US model 74-75 or perhaps 1976 DT175.    There is a 1F9 parts manual in the tech library here that might be for your bike?

There's a "wedge" on the clutch actuator.  As shaft rotates, flat pushes pushrod.  Raising it all the way up is minimum freeplay.  You're likely missing the ball bearing like HT1kid already said which would make the total pushrod length too short.  It's not uncommon to roll out. 

This pic might help: 
 

Actuator is sideways in pic. You can see the "wedge" to the right on the picture which would be down inside the engine.  The flat on the wedge contacts the pushrod.  So raising it with the eccentric screw that engages the groove brings flat closer to pushrod reducing freeplay.  It only takes 1/2 turn on the adjustment screw to raise the shaft from all the way down (maximum play) to all the way up (minimum play)  Turning the screw more than that does nothing except jamming screw into shaft or disengaging eccentric pin from groove.
  • RT325
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20 Apr 2023 00:16 - 20 Apr 2023 00:49
Replied by RT325 on topic Newbie to the forum
Firstly be sure its got clearance on the actuator adjuster on the left & also a less than perfect cable can give a false impression or even hold a light preload on the actuator & it doesn't take much to give grief, Even to the point of [if zero clearance] & the helical [whatever they are-angled teeth]; The angled clutch gear tries to drag it all sideways. And if any slight side movement of bearing in the case then the clutch frees a whisker & slips under power. I doubt your plates are toast & i'm going to the extremes with my comments but have had that happen.
But wait there's more lol--on my 175 [AT1--175 top end] it slipped like crazy under power. [clutch never been off since new 1970] but recently [vid up here somewhere of mine] i recently beat the s--t [snot not s--t] out of it around a track & it damn well came right unbelievably. Might come back to bite me but is ok at the mo. So check its not very overfull of oil then go ride it again. If you need to go 'in' then leave out the rubber rings under the plates & de-glaze the fibers & scratch the steels.
Edit--Also actuator arm needs a good spring to keep it right back with clearance & doesn't take much of a cruddy cable to overcome the spring.
  • MarkT
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17 Apr 2023 15:23
Thank you, I'm continually amazed at the skills members here have!
  • 19stuberd
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17 Apr 2023 15:03
Hey everyone! I just remembered I had a couple of files floating around that I went to some trouble to create, and I thought I would put them out there for anyone who might need them at some point.

First one is a clutch actuator worm gear. One issue that I had before my ignition issue was that my clutch actuator gear broke, which was a bit of a pain in the ass as the only replacement was $75. I drafted the gear and iterated it a couple of times for 3D printing, so I will include the source file (autocad) as well as the STLs that I printed from. The one on the bike is just made of nylon, so if you have access to a nylon-capable 3D printer this will save you $75. The outer dimensions of the gear and thread pitch don't change between iterations, but the shaft hole diameter is the only source of issue as the original (somewhat stupidly) seems to rely on a friction fit for retention. It's just a matter of finding which file creates the right interference fit when printed on your printer, you can also print the hole small and sand it out to make it a bit looser (I did that).

The other file is something that I used when I was rewinding my source coil, should anyone ever have to do that again. It's just a model of a part to replace the paper coil stops that always seem to break. Dims and thickness are all ripped straight from the paper one, it fits perfectly. I have noticed some minor sagging after using it on the bike (it gets warm and I printed with a relatively low temperature thermoplastic) but after dozens of miles of riding it is still going strong.

Hope this can help somebody! Thanks for reading :)

 
  • RT325
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11 Apr 2023 06:03
Replied by RT325 on topic RT 2 clutch slipping issue
If its original it could have the rubber spreaders under each fiber so disgard them although aftermarket fibers may not have room for them to sit under which is ok. Fibers glaze up & any roughing up will only be a temporary cure. There's an actuator center adjuster on the left cover but if its got clearance at the H/bar lever you likely have down below. To prove that just get a socket onto the locknut & see if any free movement before it pushes the rod. If preloaded then crack it free & give it an 1/8 turn of free & see if it helps slippage. But my guess is still new fibers sorry.
  • RT325
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07 Apr 2023 18:25
Replied by RT325 on topic RT2 Clutch cable adjustment
If your pushrod is too short & the adjuster in the actuator won't reach it--then that's one thing to worry about. But if the adjuster takes up the play as it should & the arm won't go down & start lifting from about say 8 oclock [he say looking at the clock] then that's your main problem. So i'd concentrate on the actuator problem you first asked about. If i'm on the right page haha--sometimes i wonder where i am.
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