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DT 400 B shunting update 2
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Replied by GaryDean on topic DT 400 B shunting update 2
Great news
22 Nov 2022 10:09
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Hi Airbornesilva , I am running a B9ES witch is correct for the 400B, the B8ES are for the DT 250B. I checked with Yambits and all of my manuals just to confirm it. I have also fitted a 12 volt Rexs ignician system, as the old 6 volt cdi and coils were corroded, the bike is a USA barn find, 3 years have now past and now fully restored she fires up first kick hot or cold.
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22 Nov 2022 11:58
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Thanks P.Wells, after learning on here what I had thought was right I too run a B9ES, don't know why the shop gave me a B8ES... I have the Vape 12Volt system in mine, the little it ran before my lower rod bearing went out it ran like a bat outta hell! Will be getting a new rod and bearings in it fairly soon, I'm also going to do all the painting while the lower end is in the shop, then I want to deal with the shunting issue, lot's of good information on here for that...
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1976 DT400C
1975 DT400B
1973 RT3
1981 DT175H
1980 GT80
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22 Nov 2022 12:54
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Replied by Jammyyammy on topic DT 400 B shunting update 2
Hi P.wells, that’s fantastic news.
Can I ask you what part number you got from Allens Performance for the needle jet / needle jet tube?
Was it 6F9 or 6DH2?
Thanks…
Can I ask you what part number you got from Allens Performance for the needle jet / needle jet tube?
Was it 6F9 or 6DH2?
Thanks…
23 Nov 2022 02:41
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Hi JammyYammy, I purchased the 6F9 as stated in the service manual, the old one was also a 6F9.
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24 Nov 2022 00:29
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Many thanks.
Sorry for all the questions, but Allensperformance want me to check the ‘series number’ of the needle jet:
“Could you please check the series number in the is it 166 we have a bit of information on the DT400 it will be on the needle jet 166-0-8 are £16.31 each, we dont have stock of 6F09 - £8.42 they are back order postage £4.14 . Just check the series number for me please. I can make you a sale order up and give you ring when we have stock”.
My needle jet only has ‘0-8’ stamped on it. I’m not too sure where to find the ‘series number’.
Is 166-0-8 correct?
Thanks…
Sorry for all the questions, but Allensperformance want me to check the ‘series number’ of the needle jet:
“Could you please check the series number in the is it 166 we have a bit of information on the DT400 it will be on the needle jet 166-0-8 are £16.31 each, we dont have stock of 6F09 - £8.42 they are back order postage £4.14 . Just check the series number for me please. I can make you a sale order up and give you ring when we have stock”.
My needle jet only has ‘0-8’ stamped on it. I’m not too sure where to find the ‘series number’.
Is 166-0-8 correct?
Thanks…
24 Nov 2022 04:04
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Replied by MarkT on topic DT 400 B shunting update 2
I've never seen a genuine Mikuni needle jet that didn't have the size, ie "O-8", the series, ie "166", along with the Mikuni "square in the corner or a square" trademark symbol stamped in it.
The 166 is similar to a 159 series. 159 is on the right. Notice that the 159 has a thicker rim near the top and a slightly taller shroud. My understanding is that the 159 series is used in a wide range of carb sizes (30 to 36 or 38) and the 166 variation is designed to fit the smaller size carbs (up to 34) better and not stick out so far.
yamaha-enduros.com/index.php/forums/attachment/15870
Partzilla lists a 159 P-0 for the DT400 in the current parts list (#18)... which is a slightly richer needle jet than the O-8 originally specified.
www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcy...0c/carburetor-400b-c
The 166 is similar to a 159 series. 159 is on the right. Notice that the 159 has a thicker rim near the top and a slightly taller shroud. My understanding is that the 159 series is used in a wide range of carb sizes (30 to 36 or 38) and the 166 variation is designed to fit the smaller size carbs (up to 34) better and not stick out so far.
yamaha-enduros.com/index.php/forums/attachment/15870
Partzilla lists a 159 P-0 for the DT400 in the current parts list (#18)... which is a slightly richer needle jet than the O-8 originally specified.
www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcy...0c/carburetor-400b-c
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Replied by Wessi on topic DT 400 B shunting update 2
Can somebody please describe to me, what "shunting" means ? Couldn´t find any translation not linked with railroads. Is this the issue with sputtering at constant cruising speed ?
I tested on my newly restored DT400B the configuration of P.Wells, but engine was 4-stroking in various throttle positions and didnt need Choke. So much too ritch, only good at 3/4 to full throttle.
Back from 50 to 40 idle jet and raisung needle clip to 3rd instead 4th clip made it better. But not perfect.
Now i ordered new needle, needle jet, and needle valve. And 35 idle jet
Courious, if this will improve the situation
I tested on my newly restored DT400B the configuration of P.Wells, but engine was 4-stroking in various throttle positions and didnt need Choke. So much too ritch, only good at 3/4 to full throttle.
Back from 50 to 40 idle jet and raisung needle clip to 3rd instead 4th clip made it better. But not perfect.
Now i ordered new needle, needle jet, and needle valve. And 35 idle jet
Courious, if this will improve the situation
21 Oct 2024 05:36
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Replied by AirborneSilva on topic DT 400 B shunting update 2
There's been many posts on this subject and how to improve it. I've done some of it on my 76 400 and it has improved it to a point, I need to do more but am having issues with the engine itself that I need to find someone competent enough to go through it and hopefully find the issue since it's beyond my expertise. I did save all the suggestions in a word document that's 2 pages long, if you'd like it send me an e-mail at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and I'll send you a copy.
2023 Tenere T7
1976 DT400C
1975 DT400B
1973 RT3
1981 DT175H
1980 GT80
1972 CT2
1976 DT400C
1975 DT400B
1973 RT3
1981 DT175H
1980 GT80
1972 CT2
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21 Oct 2024 14:44
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Big bore motors seem harder on wearing out needle jet & the needle.
I don't know, bigger motor = bigger pulses banging the needle around plus it's going up & down sawing it into egg shape. All a bit of guess on my part although been there done that to fix it.
I think you said mixture only half a turn out, but if it all work with what you did then that's what matters most on your bike. Well done, as it's very frustrating i know.
I don't know, bigger motor = bigger pulses banging the needle around plus it's going up & down sawing it into egg shape. All a bit of guess on my part although been there done that to fix it.
I think you said mixture only half a turn out, but if it all work with what you did then that's what matters most on your bike. Well done, as it's very frustrating i know.
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21 Oct 2024 17:16
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