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DT175 tacho cable rotating the wrong way!

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Replied by MarkT on topic DT175 tacho cable rotating the wrong way!

You could very well be correct that a model of the DT125 we didn't get in the US had the mirror image gears! That makes more sense than anything.

I don't remember seeing your pictures but the 125 electric start cases probably won't fit a 175 from 74 on... (In the US, they certainly won't) and you have to use the 125 electric start or 69-73 175 cases for the electric start.

"First generation" cases can be easily spotted by the longer/lower bottom rear motor mount and the fact that the clutch actuator is in the side cover... second and third gen 125/175 have the clutch actuator on top of the engine.
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Replied by RT325 on topic DT175 tacho cable rotating the wrong way!

I wonder if the plastic gear is of a yamaha that ran the clutch & everything on the left instead of the right. The last IT175 & then the IT200 had the motor back to front [not spinning back to front] but everything was on the left. In saying that i'm not sure they ran a tacho, but i'll keep thinking of a full road version that would have a tach. It'd be shear chance if someone had a motor like that in bits as well as the DT175 in bits at same time & the parts interchanged. Also i would have thought the DT one would be white plastic not black but only guessing.
26 Jan 2020 02:19 #42

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Replied by RT325 on topic DT175 tacho cable rotating the wrong way!

Or a model that has the tac driven from the back of the motor like my DT1 where 'i think' the gear fits back to front & driven from the kick start or primary gears [been a long time since i've looked in there]. Something along those lines anyway.

Did take a video of my AT1 cable revolving the other day but not worked out how to put it up here but irrelevant anyway in the grand scheme of things.
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Replied by RT325 on topic DT175 tacho cable rotating the wrong way!


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Replied by Eazy-X on topic DT175 tacho cable rotating the wrong way!

You guys might be on to something with the colour of the gears: black - spiral goes one way, white - the spiral goes the other. That would certainly be a sensible way to do it if you had bags and bags of near-identical cogs at a bike factory. Certainly the "correct" one I have on order is white.

I have the original '70s Haynes manual (Euro equivalent of Clymer although not as good.) It's a little confusing as it covers all the European DTs from 1971 to 1985, 100/125/175. But 100% definitely the wiring for the DT175 1G1 is different to the DT175C which I surmise is the closest US cousin - the Haynes manual has the only correct wiring diagram for my bike I've seen so far.

The spare bottom end I have is marked "1G0" which tallies with Haynes. I've only had a cursory glance at it as it's been coated with oil and wrapped in plastic to aid preservation. It's much larger than the 175 bottom end which I'd expect given the magneto doubles as a motor. Hang on...

Okay, so I've had a quick peek. The magneto side is much, much wider. I think the clutch arm is missing so no comment on that. Speaking of missing....

Aha! The tacho drive is completely absent. I think we have a high certainty of where my parts came from :) Mystery solved?
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Replied by Gr8uncleal on topic DT175 tacho cable rotating the wrong way!

Another one for the "What a Previous Owner Did" reference library! :EEEK

A US member of the aircooledrd forum has just found a slider from a different bike in one of his DS7 carbs.

The US import RD350B that I bought off fleabay (I know, stupid me, but I never learn! :Ugh) had carbs from two different bikes fitted - one off a RD350LC and one off a YR5. And neither of them complete. Basically just space fillers for the photos. At least I could sell them for half decent money.
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Oh, and just a taste of what I'm working towards:

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26 Jan 2020 14:02 #47

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Replied by MarkT on topic DT175 tacho cable rotating the wrong way!

Very nice look... don't see too many in black..

Yes, Europe had different lighting requirements in the later years so the wiring is slightly different. Mostly changes are a "city light" or "parking light" in the headlight if I remember correctly... I think there might be an extra key position for that too.

It would be interesting to see the ads you found with reverse tach gears... I have the parts list for the 1GO and it takes the same gear that most did... the one RT325 posted, so even though tach gears are missing, it's not likely they came from a 1GO.

(Clutch actuator is mounted in the chain cover which is probably why you didn't see it... you'd have to remove the cover... if cover is gone, so is actuator... all you'll see is a pushrod in front of the sprocket.)

Oh, and as far as it being black instead of white, the part number has an "02" which means a revision... could be why it's black plastic now.
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