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DT2 timing

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I dont have a dial gauge but I do have timing disc. Can anybody tell me what 3.2mm BTDC is in degrees please? Failing that anyone know the eye to eye length of a standard conrod so I can work it out myself? 
05 Nov 2023 08:51 #1

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Replied by MarkT on topic DT2 timing

It's been a while since I did the calculations but off the top of my head I remember the timing coming out right around 21 to 23 degrees BTDC for every model I calculated.  (I assumed no piston pin offset, I'm not sure if Yamaha offset the pin)

The reed valve 250 should have a 125mm rod.  Piston port 250 had 130mm rod.
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Replied by Stevvo on topic DT2 timing

Thank you MarkT!
Last edit: 06 Nov 2023 02:09 by Stevvo.
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Replied by RT325 on topic DT2 timing

Be an interesting experiment to strobe it after, to see how close it 'actually fires' to your degree mark or however you mark it on the flywheel at 3.2btdc.
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Replied by MarkT on topic DT2 timing

Gvthnks,  Piston movement is not a linear relationship to crank rotation, con rod angle (determined by con rod length) makes a difference.  For example, with the crank rotated 90 degrees past TDC, the piston will be over half way down the bore due to the con rod angularity...

Near TDC, you need to rotate the crank more degrees to achieve the same vertical piston movement than you do when crank is near 90 past TDC. 

www.torqsoft.net/piston-position.html
1963 YG1-T, 1965 MG1-T, Allstate 250, 1970 CT1b, 1971 R5, 1973 AT3MX, 1974 TS400L, 1975 RD350, 1976 DT175C, 1976 Husqvarna 250CR, 1981 DT175G, 1988 DT50, 1990 "Super" DT50, 1991 RT180, 2017 XT250
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Replied by RT325 on topic DT2 timing

Getting too technical for me.
Think i'll just add a lever arm to the stator plate & spring loaded plate screws with a cable to a lever on the bars. Then move it to find its sweet spot of advance--just before it holes a piston!!. Similar to what my BSA B33 had with movable flat points cam plate. Then again Maybe Not!!.
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Replied by gvthnks on topic DT2 timing

MarkT, thanks for the correction.

Apparently forgetting is a thing. I'm going to delete my post so no one gets confuserated by my math.
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