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Early '68 250 cylinder QC problem
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Temporarily I've trimmed the gasket for a better match.
I see my choices as one of 3:
1.) Repair the existing cylinder by having the drilled holes filled with alloy, then re-drilling and tapping for the studs, hopefully correcting the alignment issue. Basically, a machine shop expense.
2.) Obtain another cylinder that does not have this problem, boring/honing as required. This means that I may need another piston/ringset, so more parts and machine shop expense.
3.) Leave it alone and continue the re-assembly, as the bike had run this way before (it was a non-runner when I got it)
Have any members seen this problem with early cylinders? I'm wondering if I got the proverbial Friday afternoon job?
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1976 DT400C
1973 RT3
1971 RT1B
1968 DT1 (Project)
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The 70 C and 71 E model have a different number again for cylinder and head .
I believe the 68 cylinder was unpainted , and the 69 cylinder was , but if that was the only difference ,
then I'd suspect Yamaha would have retained the 214 prefix , and just altered the suffix to 01 .
The 69 pairing went to a 233 prefix , and 70 /71 pairing , went to a 01 suffix to the 69 numbers .
The 68 head had only a single spark plug outlet , whereas the 69 had two .
Exhaust port heights were certainly different between B and C/ E models ,
but not having a 68 on hand , I can only speculate .
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The early cylinder (68?) looks slightly different. Would be interesting to know when this changed.
Ebay item 114360614551 is an early cylinder. The fins are all full. (although this one looks ported)
Ebay item 363451903323 is the later cylinder and has a very small cut out at the rear top fin on the exhaust side.
The non cut out ones turn up a lot less often on ebay ......but they do turn up
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Tried to post a pic but not working yet.
edit…I think crisis averted for me and my prepped cylinders. Outside is identical to my 68. Ports are very close or identical. One of my prepped cylinders has both the intake and exhaust ports 2mm taller. However both ports start at same height from the top…80mm and 40mm respectively. All other port measurements the same. However on both my prepped cylinders the intake studs are centered for the opening. Maybe I should have them filled and drilled off center to match my 68 cylinder lol. I’ll have to look at the carb and see if there is a reason for the studs to be off center on the 68.
1976 DT400C
1973 RT3
1971 RT1B
1968 DT1 (Project)
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My thought when seeing this was that in the factory for that particular manufacturing step machinery was setup to do that task, and never checked/changed maybe?
My VIN is 1717, his is 12xxx. With the '69 and later, and possible port changes, perhaps this "error" was found and corrected, as when I look at the cylinders on ebay that port appears much better centered.
As for me, for now I will continue with reassembly, as I really need to make some progress and get more of the small bits out of boxes and on the bike. I've spent a lot of time and money making the original bottom end and magneto as right as I can make them, just really disappointed in myself that I did not spot this earlier. Not as observant as I used to be.
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But option one is my preference when I can get someone to take that on.
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Thank you all for the good info! And I need to check into this imgur photo posting thing so I can get pics up.
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