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Smoke under the DT 400B tank
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New to me DT400 is in really bad condition, everything stripped to a pure dirt bike, but was announced as "running".
In deed, I started the bike and motor in idle run fine without bad noises. But then smoke appeared under the front of the gas tank, so I stopped the engine.
Didn't find the source, nothing visible on the wiring loom or surroundings. And bike don't have spark, now.
My question now is, can I try to start this CDI bike also just by connecting the black wire with the coil,,as it is possible with the points bike DT250?
I know the CDI is not reliable and I will convert the ignition later. For time being, I just want to find out in a short ride, how engine is running and shifting, before a possible rebuild starts.
Mabe just top end rebuild and new seals or enough?
Thank you in advance for your help.
In deed, I started the bike and motor in idle run fine without bad noises. But then smoke appeared under the front of the gas tank, so I stopped the engine.
Didn't find the source, nothing visible on the wiring loom or surroundings. And bike don't have spark, now.
My question now is, can I try to start this CDI bike also just by connecting the black wire with the coil,,as it is possible with the points bike DT250?
I know the CDI is not reliable and I will convert the ignition later. For time being, I just want to find out in a short ride, how engine is running and shifting, before a possible rebuild starts.
Mabe just top end rebuild and new seals or enough?
Thank you in advance for your help.
04 Jul 2024 07:42
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Replied by MarkT on topic Smoke under the DT 400B tank
Not possible to do that on a CDI bike.
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04 Jul 2024 07:55
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Replied by RT325 on topic Smoke under the DT 400B tank
Smoke aint good but an easy way to find the short. But is the smoke coming from a worn decompressor & smoke is wafting up there under the tank. Ok not that. Nothing is battery powered in the cdi but i guess a short to ground or short together could melt the wire casing. Have a close look.
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04 Jul 2024 20:51
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Replied by Wessi on topic Smoke under the DT 400B tank
The smike must come out of the wiring loom.
It appeared after motor was running for 1-2 minutes..I think you are,right, must be a short
But where? I will have a closer look..Thank you both
It appeared after motor was running for 1-2 minutes..I think you are,right, must be a short
But where? I will have a closer look..Thank you both
05 Jul 2024 13:03
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Most common "smoke under the tank" cause I've seen is the rectifier and/or the rectifier wires (white and red)... generally caused by a shorted battery or no battery and the red touched ground.
Technically, that won't make it stop running on its own... but what can happen is adjacent CDI wires get melted/shorted in the harness.
Technically, that won't make it stop running on its own... but what can happen is adjacent CDI wires get melted/shorted in the harness.
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05 Jul 2024 13:15
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MarkT, you were 100% right. The rectifier plastic is melted around the connectors.
Great recommendations always from your side
Also may thanks to RT 325
Bike is without battery, and PO connected + and - of the battery shoes for whatever reason. That couldn´t be correct, as even an electrical Greenhorn like me should have noticed.
Will try again, if i have spark, now
Great recommendations always from your side
Also may thanks to RT 325
Bike is without battery, and PO connected + and - of the battery shoes for whatever reason. That couldn´t be correct, as even an electrical Greenhorn like me should have noticed.
Will try again, if i have spark, now
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15 Jul 2024 06:38
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