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DT 250 Pinging

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My 1971 DT250 runs great new rings, burned out exhaust, new upper rod end bearing, running 32:1 temporarily until pump is rebuilt.  

after a minute at 55 mph it seems to ping.   Any ideas ?  Have not checked timing because I don't know how to use the gauge on a angled spark plug hole.  Any ideas ?

03 Mar 2022 16:07 #1

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Replied by darinm on topic DT 250 Pinging

Did you verify jetting is still spec, any air leaks on the intake? Outside of these I'd think timing. It's not a bike known for pinging issues. Did you seal the hole where the oil pump normally feeds?
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Replied by adguy2112 on topic DT 250 Pinging

I was thinking about the fact you have an new top end. Are you fully through the break in of the new rings and following the recommendations? 
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Replied by msavitt on topic DT 250 Pinging

sounds pretty nice to me
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Darin M.  I have yet to check the jetting and comparing with spec is a great idea.  I did close off the autolube entry to the cylinder.  I may try the timing first just to see if I can figure out how to measure the piston height against the timing.   I sure wish the spark plug hole was vertical.  
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msavitt,
it is really strong and wants to run.  Just wish I could get the ping to disappear.
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Replied by Hawksip on topic DT 250 Pinging

Adguy,
I sure haven't considered that.  Suppose I should but I don't think that would cause a ping.  I didn't replace the piston since it seemed tight and within tolerance.  May be piston slap but my recollection on piston slap is that you would hear it when releasing throttle at a standstill.  Could be I suppose....
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Replied by RT325 on topic DT 250 Pinging

Sorry to ruin ya day but i didn't hear pinging as such, but did hear ring dingin lean sounding in the video so could induce detonation on the road maybe. Actualy sounded a bit retarded at idle so check the points gap & see if barely opening, then set at 14--don't worry about timing just yet as will be in the ball park setting the gap--& then richen the pilot & needle, check main for size & partial blockage & go try it again. Sort of sounds low on comp at idle too plus lean. Hows comp feel on the kick start. should have a good bounce to it going by my DT1.
Also i hope the oil line to the cylinder is plugged or will draw air in & agravate the problem adding to lean.
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Replied by RT325 on topic DT 250 Pinging

During my woffling above i clean forgot the mag side crank seal possibility related to lean running. But they're a robust seal & if you saw what i'm running with no issues you'd not worry unless its fallen out or close to it.
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RT325,
yes good compression with healthy kickback. Yes I plugged the autolube screw hole in cylinder.  I guess while I am in the flywheel side checking and setting the points I could look to see if there is any evidence of leaks to see if the crank seal is failing.  Or I could just change it while I am in there.  I will clean the carb and check main size and if sizes look normal I will richer the needle.  You are right there is no pinging while sitting.  I did t recognize the ring a ding lean noise but it has been a long while since I messed with these old bikes. Only under load at speed did I notice the ping.  Just riding around the trail in lower gears I can't hear a thing, only under load in top gear.  Thanks for the input.
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