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Unknown piston modification
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While restoring my 1970 RT1, I found the piston had been filed 1 to1.5 mm at the auxiliary transfer ports. None of the cylinder ports have been modified.
Has anyone seen this before?
I replaced the piston with a new OEM part.
I'm aware of the piston mod in the service bulletin but this is different.
Has anyone seen this before?
I replaced the piston with a new OEM part.
I'm aware of the piston mod in the service bulletin but this is different.
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Old school modification. Some of the books in the Tech Library probably describe it. It's a way to modify port timing that can be reversed by installing new unmodified piston. I did it to a few bikes when I was a kid.
1963 YG1-T, 1965 MG1-T, Allstate 250, 1970 CT1b, 1971 R5, 1973 AT3MX, 1974 TS400L, 1975 RD350, 1976 DT175C, 1976 Husqvarna 250CR, 1981 DT175G, 1988 DT50, 1990 "Super" DT50, 1991 RT180, 2017 XT250
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11 Nov 2021 17:45
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Just to clarify, I never did that exact mod... usually I just did the exhaust port and sometimes all the transfers.
Never just a couple transfers.... but that's the beauty of the method, you can experiment and if it doesn't work out it's not hard to reverse the mod.
Never just a couple transfers.... but that's the beauty of the method, you can experiment and if it doesn't work out it's not hard to reverse the mod.
1963 YG1-T, 1965 MG1-T, Allstate 250, 1970 CT1b, 1971 R5, 1973 AT3MX, 1974 TS400L, 1975 RD350, 1976 DT175C, 1976 Husqvarna 250CR, 1981 DT175G, 1988 DT50, 1990 "Super" DT50, 1991 RT180, 2017 XT250
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11 Nov 2021 17:53
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Does it run any different with the new piston? Seems like a peculiar choice as far as porting goes.
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11 Nov 2021 17:56
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I don't know how it will run. I'm still restoring it. It seemed to run okay before disassembly.
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Thanks Mark
11 Nov 2021 18:34
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I've still got a factory experimental piston for a YZ80 that was sent to us to try at work in about 1982, maybe a little later. It's modified all the way around "Except the Exhaust Port". Never got to use it in the end but a think it was to try & make it more rideable & less peaky in the power. Had super thin rings too.
12 Nov 2021 00:42
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I remember making a similar mod. to my AT1 back in 1970. Ran great!
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12 Nov 2021 05:38
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A good friend of mine is a former Team Suzuki MX wrench in the US and Europe back in the late 70s-80s. He told me they would scallop the pistons to change power characteristics from track to track. Back in those day's they didn't have room in the pit vans to stock that many different cylinders. A box of pistons with different scallops was much easier to transport. I'd believe him, I've seen his old pictures of him and the team riders.
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Found my pics on a post back in 2016. Was a YZ80J 47mm piston so was a long stroke motor to start with earlier being 49mm by memory. But must've wanted to see if they could get more torque out of it. By the time it arrived all our local ones had been bored oversize for various reasons so never got to find out if it helped.
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