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TOPIC: rickman metisse

rickman metisse 01 Nov 2018 13:03 #1

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hi
i was woundering if anyone knows something about the frame numbers off a rickman frame
i bought one with a dt engine under it
here s a pic off the frame number


the same number is also on the engine

thanks

kenny
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rickman metisse 02 Nov 2018 04:15 #2

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Hi Kenny.
Right ,i have spoken to Terry Weedy who is extremely closely associated with both of the Rickman brothers.
I have given him the frame number and dropped your pics across to him.
On first description,he says it could have been a Rickman Zundapp as a CT 175 engine will slot straight in.
However ,he is looking in his frame catalogue as i write this.
The only spoiler is that the frame and engine number is the same. Rickman didn't officially build a frame for the CT/DT,but that's not to say it couldn't be adapted to take the Yamaha lump.
However ,he did say that some of the Hodakas had Rickman frames ,and they are as rare as hens teeth.
Regards Dave.
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rickman metisse 02 Nov 2018 06:11 #3

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The April 1971 issue of Modern Cycle had Part one of a "Rickman-Yamaha Project". It was a frame kit that had everything but "the engine and the drive chain" and claims to have been designed for the Yamaha DT1 250 engine. I will see if I can get it scanned.

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rickman metisse 02 Nov 2018 09:04 #4

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ok thank you for the information
here are some more pictures to me it looks like the brackets for the engine were later put on the frame
i also heard the early rickman frames had a regular rear fender instead off the typical metisse rear fender




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rickman metisse 02 Nov 2018 09:07 #5

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rickman metisse 02 Nov 2018 09:38 #6

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Great score!!

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rickman metisse 02 Nov 2018 15:39 #7

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Not sure if this will work... PDF of article hopefully attached.

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rickman metisse 02 Nov 2018 17:15 #8

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The serial numbers wouldn't have matched, the Rickman was sold as a chassis kit. The owner supplied the DT1 engine.
Someone stamped those numbers themself would be my guess. The Chassis looks like the engine mounts were added later
to adapt the Yamaha engine. There is a Rickman group over on Facebook you might get some answers from.

That said, it's a super cool bike and wouldn't take much to clean it up, I imagine it would be fun to ride and get a lot of
interest! I have a Rickman Chassis sitting around that I wanted to do the same thing to, just waiting for time to get it done.

Look forward to seeing how it ends up!

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rickman metisse 03 Nov 2018 00:13 #9

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MarkT wrote: Not sure if this will work... PDF of article hopefully attached.


I have added this scan to the permanent library in the vintage articles section. Thanks Mark!

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rickman metisse 03 Nov 2018 03:44 #10

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Check this out Kenny.
www.terryweedy.com/metisse.html#
Images 44 & 45. Surprise surprise.

He bought this in a consignment of 30 bikes from the US.

You know what,there's a picture i put on the site somewhere and it has a shot of a Hindle DT 250 that was for sale here.
The frame looks to be more or less the same.
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