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DT1 Frame ID Help

21 Jul 2019 18:55 21 Jul 2019 20:52 by Blackline.
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DT1 Frame ID Help #1
I do not have any Vin Stamp in the neck of my DT1C (1970)

Does anyone know if this is correct? Or was it only issued with a vin sticker on the front of the neck?

Or did I purchase a DUD??

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21 Jul 2019 21:33
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DT1 Frame ID Help #2
In your third picture you can see a few remains of what once was a VIN number stamped in the correct location, can no longer read it though. All 1970 DT1s came with VIN numbers stamped on left side of neck, yours appears to have been filed, ground, or sanded away.

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21 Jul 2019 21:37
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DT1 Frame ID Help #3
So this bike was a waste of $$$$

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21 Jul 2019 21:48
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DT1 Frame ID Help #4
Not necessarily. Here in California the CHP would be willing to attach a new "assigned number" VIN if: 1) they cannot identify the old VIN with certainty; 2) there is no record of it being in the nationwide Stolen Vehicle System; and 3) you can prove you acquired the frame lawfully with receipts. The downside is the originality is no longer intact and would be reflected in the resale value. If you want a fun rider, it likely can be renumbered and registered, if you want to do a correct high-dollar restoration you are much better off looking for a better candidate. Whatever parts are on your frame are probably worth more than what you have invested in it.
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22 Jul 2019 00:12 22 Jul 2019 00:13 by Gr8uncleal. Reason: spelling
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DT1 Frame ID Help #5
Was HouseofEnduro's observation in his first post correct - ie are there any vague traces of a number left? If yes, do these in any way tie up with the engine number? If they do, then there is a fair chance that the frame number is the same as the engine number.

I don't know how things work in the US, but here in the UK the frame number is linked to just the one registration number and therefore if you have one of these items, you should be able to find out the other.

As you might already be suspecting, the only reason to try and erase a frame number would be if a vehicle had at some stage been stolen (assuming that the rest of the frame hasn't been rubbed down, of course).

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22 Jul 2019 01:39
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DT1 Frame ID Help #6
My god...it is so hard. I took 2 pics of the locations from 2 on ebay. It looks like the vin starts from the bottom of the right side.
Is this correct? You have to read it like your sitting on the bike and leaning over to see it. Is this also correct?

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22 Jul 2019 02:06
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DT1 Frame ID Help #7
It reads down on the right hand side - picture of my RT2 attached.

This might be a daft suggestion (I have many!!), but is it possible to trace it, using a pencil and paper like we used to do at school?

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22 Jul 2019 02:14
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DT1 Frame ID Help #8
I have t two RT1's and they are on the right side. I was told the DT1 has the Vin on the Left side.

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22 Jul 2019 02:30
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DT1 Frame ID Help #9
Fair do's.

I have just had a look at one for sale on ebay in the UK and that one does read up on the left side of the frame.

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22 Jul 2019 02:36
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DT1 Frame ID Help #10
Yes it does seem that way. I took 3 pics form eBay and they all look like the Left side. Which is my last / bottom photo.

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