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Rear cog washers/keepers

06 Jun 2019 13:22
meadeam
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Rear cog washers/keepers #1
How important is it to use these? I assume they are to prevent the bolts from backing out. Do you all use them everytime? Mine are pretty banged up after being taken off a few times in this bike's 45 years. I'd just leave them off and perhaps use a bit of locktite unless somebody tells me that would result in certain bodily injury or death.

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06 Jun 2019 13:58
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Good loctite threadlocker will be ok, just don't forget to put it on in the exitement of getting it going/ Use high tensile bolts full length of the threaded hole etc. I see all the bolts out of my old honda car motor are super high 10 strength & pull up nice & solid. I remember at work years ago the supplier of out nits & bolts supplied a bunch of low tensile bolts & was a damn nightmare until we realised what was going on. Just useless cheesy bolts. That reminds me--are nuts of a tensile strength as well as bolts, maybe so but i've never thought that one out. Standard bolts seem to be 8.8 down here in any hardware store,

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06 Jun 2019 14:43
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This may be overkill but I replace them with studs, loctite the studs in and then safety wire the nuts :unsure:

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06 Jun 2019 17:20
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Ummm.... talk to GFrench about Loctite and not using the lock plates on the rear sprocket. (Safety wire would be fine)

Probably in a thread here someplace... spoiler: sprocket came loose, loctite did not hold.

Motodad24 on ebay has repop sprocket lock plates for most bikes at a good price... good guy... met him at a Meis event a few years ago.

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06 Jun 2019 17:34
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It's been a long day... maybe it wasn't GFrench that had the sprocket bolts back out even with loctite... I do know it's happened to others...

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09 Jun 2019 16:35
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I ended up reusing them. They weren’t as rough as I thought. I’ll replace them next time I take them off for any reason.

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2007 FZ6
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09 Jun 2019 20:12 09 Jun 2019 20:15 by GFrench.
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MarkT wrote: It's been a long day... maybe it wasn't GFrench that had the sprocket bolts back out even with loctite... I do know it's happened to others...



For me.... NEVER Never never run your bike without the washer lock plates or your right Mark- bad things can and will happen.

I tried once not running them and the results could have been very bad... with so much torque and constant applied pressure to the sprocket it takes a lot more than loctite to secure the bolts.

Not going to be a good day if bolts back out and they catch the swing arm and start shearing things off!

Yamaha had a design/ reason for them.

Our friend MotoDad has the best deal going on them/Ebay-





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