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TOPIC: RT2 front fender identification

RT2 front fender identification 13 Mar 2019 19:12 #11

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There is a link at the top of most pages here... appearance might vary depending on your browser.

Tons of useful information including manuals and tech bulletins can be found there... and yes, VIN number lists.

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RT2 front fender identification 13 Mar 2019 20:30 #12

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Thanks MarkT
That made no sense at first because that’s not what I see on my phone, I don’t have a computer.
But it prompted me to look further and I noticed up at the top left of the screen a little box with three horizontal lines and after tapping it low and behold the tech library and lots of other stuff!
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RT2 front fender identification 13 Mar 2019 20:55 #13

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mdscott wrote: The best way to tell between aluminum is to put them outside for a few years and then check for rust, aluminum will also melt at a lower temp, steel will bend easier, or if you don't have time for all that, try a magnet. :Ugh


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I can’t stop laughing!!!!

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RT2 front fender identification 13 Mar 2019 22:39 #14

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Apologies for my earlier Faux Pas with the chassis numbers .
Mark was right , and I was reading it as 124, 000 odd .
Perhaps that's why I only get a half hour for lunch .
( so they don't have to retrain me ) LOL .
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RT2 front fender identification 14 Mar 2019 19:25 #15

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Swoop56 wrote: Apologies for my earlier Faux Pas with the chassis numbers .
Mark was right , and I was reading it as 124, 000 odd .
Perhaps that's why I only get a half hour for lunch .
( so they don't have to retrain me ) LOL .


Hmmm?
I only get a half hour too! I bet that’s why!
At my age my mind does tend to wander if given to much idle time. Lol!

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RT2 front fender identification 14 Mar 2019 19:29 #16

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So is the general community concencus that this 5/71 RT2 could not have come off the assembly line with an aluminum fender?
It really doesn’t matter to me I’m not restoring it that way just curious.
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RT2 front fender identification 14 Mar 2019 20:11 #17

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I wish DEET or Enduronut or one of the other experts would comment...

I really don't know for sure. I did look and found a couple of RT2 pictures online with the riveted aluminum fender... just don't know for sure if they came that way or if someone swapped it out over the years.

It would not surprise me at all if Yamaha used up the 1971 fenders on the early 1972's... seemed to be common practice to use up "leftover" parts in those days.

In any case I'd use the riveted aluminum fender on the earlier bike if it was me... even if it can't be "proved" original it's the likeliest that it came on the earlier one.
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RT2 front fender identification 14 Mar 2019 23:54 #18

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Neither of your two RT2 bikes came off of the assembly line with the riveted fender, Yamaha stopped installing that aluminum fender in April of 1970, the end of the 1970 model year run, long before either of your bikes were built. The pictured fender would have come from a 1968-1970 DT1; 1969-1970 CT1; or a 1970 RT1 Enduro model. Beginning with the 1971 models all of the Enduros came originally equipped with the steel fender which were used through the 1973 model production run. The MX models used an entirely different fender. The riveted aluminum fender is harder to find, especially in good, uncracked condition, and is generally more valuable than the steel version if you were to purchase it individually on eBay or elsewhere. It weighs considerably less than the steel fender weighs, but has a common habit of bending and/or cracking with off highway use. If you are trying to correctly replicate or restore your 1972 360, you should use the steel version, otherwise the choice would be entirely yours. I hope this clears up any lingering misconception regarding the origin of the two fenders you have pictured.
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RT2 front fender identification 15 Mar 2019 03:41 #19

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I misread an earlier post and thought it said the 1971 still had the riveted fender. My bad. :Ugh

If 1970 was the last year of the riveted fender then yes, there is pretty much zero chance either RT2 came with it from the factory.

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RT2 front fender identification 15 Mar 2019 04:52 #20

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I would tend to agree that 1970 was the last year for the aluminum front fender.

However, this is based upon my experience and NOT upon any documentation.

House of Enduro offered no documentation to prove his assertion, so it is still an opinion.

When these controversies come up, I try to stay out of it unless I can offer proof along with my position. In this case, a Yamaha document stating when the aluminum fender was discontinued would convince me.
A 1971 or 1972 model brochure or service manual showing a welded fender would be some evidence. But even then, they used different model photos to describe procedures.

Unless I can offer documentation, anything I say can only be based upon my experience or opinion.

I personally have never seen an aluminum enduro fender on anything newer than 1970.

Just like VIN stickers.... I never believed they made metal ones until I saw a couple of foreign models with them....
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