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Kick start doesn’t engage properly

18 Jun 2020 12:30
Largemouth21
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Kick start doesn’t engage properly #1
When I kick down it seems like the gear on the kick starter shaft pushes the gear on the right away and prevents engagement. If I go super slow with my hand it will turn the engine over but if I kick with my foot as if to start it the gears just skip and nothing happens. Anyway to remove the play in that gear so it doesn’t “push away”?

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18 Jun 2020 15:18 18 Jun 2020 18:10 by RT325.
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Kick start doesn’t engage properly #2
Hi, guessing its the bike in your avatar so here's a link to an AT2 but they're all similar on those motors so 17 is a friction clip with an ear that fits in a guiding slot. If thats missed the slot last time the cover was off then the gear won't move out to engage. If it 'is' that then if you lean the bike over to the right as far as you can & still kick then it should hold once engaged. I might add that this is just a guess at this stage.
www.babbittsonline.com/oemparts/a/yam/50...c7847cb/kick-starter

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18 Jun 2020 16:48
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Yes it is the bike in my avatar, here is a link to a video of the issue

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18 Jun 2020 16:55
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Kick start doesn’t engage properly #4

RT325 wrote: Hi, guessing its the bike in your avatar so here's a link to an AT2 but they're all similar on those motors so 17 is a friction clip with an ear that fits in a guiding slot. If thats missed the slot lat time the cover was off then the gear won't move out to engage. If it 'is' that then if you lean the bike over to the right as far as you can & still kick then it should hold once engaged. I might add that this is just a guess at this stage.
www.babbittsonline.com/oemparts/a/yam/50...c7847cb/kick-starter



Also, where is that clip supposed to fit you said it can get misaligned when the case half is put back on. How do I ensure I put it back together properly?

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18 Jun 2020 18:20 18 Jun 2020 18:21 by RT325.
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Kick start doesn’t engage properly #5
From your video if i slow it down it looks like the gear is moving out as it should so i'm guessing it goes back out of mesh when the lever returns. But--i'm wondering about 15 retained by 14 & is that bit broken & the hear is coming out too far & going past the intermediate gear above it. Otherwise might have to remove the clutch & check the small gear behind it which is the last gear in the system that finally turns the motor. The clip with the bent ear goes into a fairly obvious slot & without having a pic to view it should be at about 9 0clock if you look at it from the kick shaft angle--looking straight in. That clip puts tension on gear 16 to make it move out the twisted spline its on.

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18 Jun 2020 18:26
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Kick start doesn’t engage properly #6
Heres a random pic of the same style case & the slot is more at 11 Oclock

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19 Jun 2020 19:53
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19 Jun 2020 21:43
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Kick start doesn’t engage properly #8
Nice that you posted a video.... but you're jerking the lever around so fast I can't see what's happening. (I'm not as smart as RT325... don't know how to slow it down)

Gear looks awfully loose but could just be the quick movement. If I remember, I will take a picture tomorrow morning on how it goes together and what it should look like.

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21 Jun 2020 13:39
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Kick start doesn’t engage properly #9
I think you’re right, it seems to be very loose I can wiggle it around with my finger. It seems like it just pushes it away and prevents meshing of the gears. The lever pops back up fine and is consistent so I think that part is still ok...

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21 Jun 2020 13:47
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Kick start doesn’t engage properly #10

RT325 wrote: From your video if i slow it down it looks like the gear is moving out as it should so i'm guessing it goes back out of mesh when the lever returns. But--i'm wondering about 15 retained by 14 & is that bit broken & the hear is coming out too far & going past the intermediate gear above it. Otherwise might have to remove the clutch & check the small gear behind it which is the last gear in the system that finally turns the motor. The clip with the bent ear goes into a fairly obvious slot & without having a pic to view it should be at about 9 0clock if you look at it from the kick shaft angle--looking straight in. That clip puts tension on gear 16 to make it move out the twisted spline its on.

I get what you’re saying but from what I can tell they’re still lined up, but there’s enough play in that gear it is pushed away from the gear on the kick start shaft if any amount of force is applied

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